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Saurian DevLog #10 – Two no-shows and one sick Triceratops

Above: Subadult Triceratops sculpt by Jake Baardse.

Over the last two weeks the programmers have been hard at work doing some really cool stuff, but it is not quite ready to show yet, so we’ve got more art assets for you once again. We promise their stuff is awesome and will be worth the wait. In addition, Chris L. and Jack have been pushing out plants, Erin has been working on optimising the environment and we’ve officially begun QA testing!

Chris M.
This week will go down in history for including the day Henry tried to assassinate my computer with a virus hidden in a copy of Twilight. Despite this vicious and unprovoked assault on my life and property, I was able to continue on with the non-dinosaurian concepts. I have been working on the alligatoroid Brachychampsa (you can trust the quality of this reconstruction is good because it was vetted by RJ, who knows suspiciously too much about these critters).

Brachychampsa concept art by Chris Masna.

There’s something very distinctive about this creature: see how blunt the teeth on the base of the mouth are, clearly specialized to break up baby Ankylosaurs and crack open crustacean (and turtle maybe?) shells. Maybe On Next Texts About New Animals Should Preferably Include New Unlikely Speculation. In Such Readings, Encountering Absolute Laughs.

Jake
These past few weeks I have been putting the finishing touches on a number of animals. Despite Henry’s best efforts to sabotoge my computer with Twilight movie nights I was able to complete some minor tweaks on Pachy as well as apply the finishing touches on Champsosaurus and Palaeosaniwa. Hooray. Most important of all of this, the Triceratops has finally seen its redesign. This was the oldest model in the game, harkening back to our Cryengine days. We made a few mistakes with our references and its date clearly showed in the overall quality of the model. In addition, its sub-adult life stage was also completed. Its neat to see them in contrast as the sub-adult looks much more like your traditional trike in comparison to the adult. The keratin covered face is in accordance with some information and guidance given to us by Denver Fowler. That’s all I’ve got for you today, don’t watch Twilight. It will literally destroy Chris’ computer.

Triceratops subadult (left) and adult (right) sculpts by Jake Baardse.


Nick & Tom
Hey everyone! Just a heads up,this will also be the last DevLog of 2016, so happy holidays and new years to all our fans. Thanks so much for all your support, we’ve come so far this year. It has been an absolute whirlwind with the kickstarter, transitioning from working in our spare time to full-time devotion to the project, and all the work we’ve gotten done since. After more than three years of effort, Saurian’s release is finally on the horizon, just stick it out with us a little longer. If you want to keep up with the latest developments and hang out with other people excited about Saurian and the science behind it, I highly recommend you check out our Discord. Also, apparently don’t accept links to Twilight Saga films from Henry. Hopefully third time is the charm.

51 Comments
  • mike on April 14, 2017

    That JP reference πŸ™‚

  • NublarRex on January 10, 2017

    I KNEW TWILIGHT WAS EVIL!!!!

  • Shadowedrealms on December 31, 2016

    I’m not sure where best to ask this, but are we going to be able to choose our dino skins? I’ve seen multiple skin models for each species.

    • Garrus on January 5, 2017

      Once character customization is in, you will be able to choose your pattern; however, we will not have “skins” in the manner of The Isle or Primal Carnage. The customization you will be able to access will reflect the natural variation that could be expected within a single population. The sole exception to this are the Genetic Variant Skins, but those are another kettle of fish entirely and also represent natural mutations which could arise.

  • Anton on December 29, 2016

    Some I accidentally did it twice

  • Anton on December 29, 2016

    You know what I just want to say saurian will just be like PokΓ©mon It will take over the world so I just want to congratulate the developers so to that I say MERRY CHRISTMAS πŸŽπŸŽ„ AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!πŸ˜‰

  • Anton on December 29, 2016

    When saurian is released it will just be like Pokémon it will take over the world so I would like to congratulate the developers who worked so hard and the people who helped them so to that I say merry Christmas and a happy new year!!!!!😁

  • Pootis Spencer on December 27, 2016

    I have a question regarding the ecosystem of this game.

    Is it possible that, if anyone in their right mind overhunted the entire population of a certain dinosaur species, for example Anatosaurus or Triceratops, to the point where none are left to be found, will it mean that this species is extinct from the ecosystem for good in your game, or will a few of that species respawn as if nothing happened?

    • Erin on January 4, 2017

      It will be impossible for any one animal to over-hunt another species.

    • Lmao on January 31, 2017

      Neither ingame or real life that would happen.

  • PALEO-UintahBasin on December 26, 2016

    Two questions both regarding triceratops. First, could someone refer me to the study that supports T. prorsus returning to forward horn curvature in adults? I find it slightly odd that the horns point forward in all stages of life with the exception of sub-adults where they point straight. I say straight in comparison to the variant. Second, what’s up with the rectangular scales on the feet and underside of the triceratops models? Not that I’m against the shape of these scales. However, this shape seems as if it mostly remained the same and was repeated in an almost checkerboard fashion.If one zooms in enough one can even notice that these scales fade over the round ones above. I’m fairly certain this isn’t the wire frame. I just want reassurance that these models are receiving the level of detail they deserve.

  • PALEO-UintahBasin on December 25, 2016

    Two questions both regarding triceratops. First, could you refer me to the study that supports T. prorsus returning to forward horn curvature in adults?
    Second, what’s up with the rectangular scales on the feet and underside of the triceratops models? I’m no 3D modeler, but it does seem a bit lazy to me. They don’t even fit in. The squares fade over the top of the detailed round ones. Is this just the wire frame of the model? I just want to know that these fantastic models have the level of detail they deserve.

  • Joseph on December 24, 2016

    Hello, my computer probably cant handle this game. What can i do considering i payed the $60 for early access? Please help.

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      Joseph, I am sorry to hear that, but at this stage I do not think there is anything you can do. Rest assured, however, that we are indeed trying to make this playable for as wide a base as possible; we have some pretty crappy laptops in our optimization tests. You’re certainly not going to be running it on ultra with everything turned on, but hopefully you will be able to at least play the game.

    • slimeywoodchip on December 26, 2016

      you’ll be fine (probably), they even took archeraptor out of playable dinosaurs for people with potato computers. I’m around 80% sure you’ll be able to run this game pretty well πŸ˜€

    • Kzar on December 27, 2016

      You should try contacting them, and not commenting.

    • Twi-sempai on December 27, 2016

      I thought the early access was only 15 not 60

  • DarkEnder64 on December 24, 2016

    Oh cool πŸ˜€
    But, if this game is realesed on console, do it will be on xbox one or ps4? Or two, why not ?
    Sorry, I’m a french barbarian πŸ˜‰

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      We did not make that stretch goal, so I am afraid that releasing Saurian on consoles is not an option for the time being. We are currently focused exclusively on the PC version.

    • NublarRex on January 12, 2017

      I not trying to sound rude, but could you please stop commenting about it being on console it will not happen no matter how much you ask.

  • TheRaptorMovies on December 24, 2016

    Thank you! I cant wait for this game! Amazing job <3

  • K Nielsen on December 23, 2016

    Good to know you guys are still playing around with the Spinosaurus fans: Look Everyone, That’s So Peculiar. Isn’t Never Obvious Good Oration.

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      The team has for the most part. Chris just thought he was being funny. That kind of slipped by Tom. That, or Tom thought it was funny to. I can tell you the moderation team and Erin were not happy with that one bit once someone pointed it out to us!

  • slimeywoodchip on December 23, 2016

    Is it me or does the crocodile look a bit like a rabbit?

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      A rabbit? How so? Also, Brachychampsa isn’t a crocodile, it’s an alligatoroid πŸ˜‰ .

      • slimeywoodchip on January 4, 2017

        πŸ˜‰

  • Kadan on December 23, 2016

    Why are the horns of the Trike pointing down in the adult stage but not in the subadult?
    How should/could the bones change in such way when reaching adultness?

    Greetings!

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      That’s actually how the horns grew. During the early stages of development, the bone cells on the distal half of the brow horns appear to have grown slower than the cells on the anterior half, causing the brow horns to curve upwards. As the animal aged, this trend reversed, and the horns finished development pointing downwards. Extreme ontogenetic changes seem to be a thing for Maginocephalia in general- heck, we did a whole blog post about the ontogeny of the other Hell creek Marginocephalian, Pachycephalosaurus. There’s a reason the juvenile and subadult remains were originally assigned their own taxa.

      • Kadan on January 9, 2017

        So you agree with Jack Horners thesis about Triceratops and Torosaurus being the same spezies but different stages of development (or for the other example Pachycepalosaurus, Stygimoloch and Dracorex as the same)?

        • Nick Turinetti on January 9, 2017

          Its not so much a matter of agreeing with Jack Horner (even though the hypothesis is not strictly his, its the result of years of collection and observation of fossils in the field and how they relate to each other) as the data they present is very well supported and has yet to be contradicted by anything coming out of the field. You can read up on Triceratops and Torosaurus and how they relate to Saurian here:

          http://saurian.maxmediacorp.com/?p=551

  • Drave25 on December 23, 2016

    Brachychampsa would make quite a snack for an adult Dakotaraptor. Anyways, I’ve been sticking with this game ever since I knew about it which was a long time ago and the game is almost there, ready to be released. Great job devs, This game will be worth it.

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      We’ve got some more work to do, but it’s coming!To quote a certain movie, “Hold onto your butts.”

    • Lmao on January 31, 2017

      I don’t think brachycampsa would be a good snack for a dakota.He has a strong bite,armor and he’s almost as big as dakota.

  • Melvin on December 23, 2016

    If dakotaraptor lived before the other dinosaurs in the game and the one they found was an accident, would you guys remove it from the game, or could you please explain why you are sure it’s not a mistake?

    • Garrus on December 26, 2016

      The one they found was an accident? Not sure what you mean, but we know that it came from the exact site that we based the map in the game on, Bone Butte. The only issue with Dakotaraptor that I am aware of was that its wishbone turned out to be a turtle plastron; the rest of the remains are not suspect.

  • Hugo on December 23, 2016

    Will redesign the Tyrannosaurus rex with feathers in the tail?

    • HMS Victory on December 23, 2016

      They probably won’t. Skin impressions from the Wyrex specimen suggest T.rex had small, round, non-overlapping scales on the tail region.

    • Vishal Boompally on December 25, 2016

      The devs aren’t going to change their T.rex model drastically, so no tail feathers.

  • Goliath's AI on December 23, 2016

    Thank you devs so much for all your work and I hope that you also have a great rest of the year. πŸ˜€

  • Chinmoy Paul on December 22, 2016

    Henry being a dick… maybe not a first. Twilight giving you a virus, now that’s something.

  • Kaprosuchusdragon on December 22, 2016

    so will all the art for the fieldguide like the trike an rex be updated because of the updates the animals in the game had?

  • Garrus on December 22, 2016

    I can confirm that Henry tried to nuke the team’s computers with a copy of Twilight. I am unsure if this was malicious or because Henry just really, REALLY loves his terrible movies. Considering the movie nights Henry has hosted in the past, I lean towards the later.

  • mrplcole on December 22, 2016

    Why does trike have cheeks???

    • John Keane on December 22, 2016

      That was covered a few devlogs ago.

      • mrplcole on December 23, 2016

        They just said they updated the oral tissue. I’m asking why it didn’t have them in the first place like every other traditional restoration.

        • Garrus on December 27, 2016

          Because the “traditional” cheeks don’t have osteological correlates like they would if they were present. Keep in mind, cheeks as you are thinking of are a mammalian adaptation. Archosaurs do not have the same adaptation, and modern archosaurs do not possess such structures. Which is why originally none of our reconstructions had cheeks. You will note that even now, they don’t really match up with “traditional” reconstructions… and considering they are based on unpublished research, they wouldn’t.

    • Garrus on December 22, 2016

      We cannot share the information here… you’ll need to wait for the paper to be published before we can actually explain that.

    • Laura Jennings on December 22, 2016

      You’re kidding, right? Have you ever seen a turtle try to eat anything? That’s what something without cheeks looks like eating. Given the massive teeth batteries ceratopsids and other dinosaurs like hadrosaurs had, it makes absolutely no sense for them to not have cheeks. They were expert and highly efficient chewers, not clumsy, sloppy eaters like turtles.

      • Lb on December 23, 2016

        …turtles do have cheeks

        • NublarRex on January 12, 2017

          No

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