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Saurian DevLog #8

Happy Thanksgiving to those of you in the USA. This will be a bit of a shorter DevLog considering this is Thanksgiving week and most of our team will be with their families for the holiday. Never fear though, we do still have some neat stuff to show you while you chow down on your dinosaurian dinners.

Jake
This past week I have been tweaking the Ornithischian “cheeks” to match our conversations with palaeontologist Ali Nabavizadeh. Most of our ornithischians needed an update, here is the Ankylosaurus, Anatosaurus, and the Denversaurus. You may be wondering where our Triceratops is, that was worked on this week as well and we will have more to share about the changes there in the coming updates. I’ll eat a turkey but my pace ain’t slowing down for the holiday. Gangsters don’t take time off.

Updated oral tissue for Ankylosaurus, Anatosaurus and Denversaurus


Henry
The distribution of water plays a large role in the structure of Hell Creek’s ecosystem, and getting animals to believably interact with water is a crucial (and complicated!) task for Saurian’s AI. My last week has been dedicated to solving this problem, and I’m pleased to show some of the results:

To dissect a little of what is seen here, there are thousands of invisible data points along the shoreline that convey relevant information to the AI when they need it. For example, in the first video, the Triceratops uses this data to find the best place along the shoreline to get a drink, while the Borealosuchus in the second video uses it to find a good place to lurk in wait for prey. This data will also be useful to animals that like to hang out by the shore but not in the water, such as shorebirds, turtles, and crocodilians.

As a last Thanksgiving treat, here’s a sneak peak of some of what Dakotaraptor‘s been up to:

Happy Thanksgiving!

45 Comments
  • Anonymous on December 2, 2016

    Are you guys planning on making pouncing a sort of mini game? I feel like this would be great for game play, having to actively alter your balance depending on the “victim’s” movements. I’d love too know if this idea sounds viable to the team or if you guys already have something in the works. Anyways great stuff, really looking forward to this game :).

    • Estemmenosuchus on December 7, 2016

      I think that feature is planned for the actual game. The player has to actively balance themselves on the prey item.

  • LT on December 2, 2016

    Your crocodiles seem to move very fast. I live around saltwater crocs and when they’re relaxed or stalking, they swim really slowly, it’s like they’re just drifting. They only move as fast as they do in your vids when they strike prey or they’re startled, but even then they slow down really quickly or dive to hide on the bottom. They ambush from underwater too, I’m not sure if it did that in the video because the water is so clear. Will your crocs sit on the riverbeds? Are you basing them on other types of crocodilians than salties or are they especially uncomfortable around big dinosaurs, is that why they move differently?

    • slimeywoodchip on December 2, 2016

      The AI is still WIP, so they’ll definitely have more realistic behaviors in the future

    • A reptile lover on December 4, 2016

      Lucky you… I’ve seen a croc about 4 times in my life…

  • Anonymous on November 30, 2016

    So, about the Tarbosaurus Jacobson’s/Vomeronasal Organ
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarbosaurus
    Vomeronasal Organ has also been suggested for ceratopsians
    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/tetrapod-zoology/the-ridiculous-nasal-anatomy-of-giant-horned-dinosaurs/
    Birds don’t have this Organ (I guess they lost it) and I don’t think crocodiles do either (but I could be wrong)
    Next closest animal to use as reference for this would be turtles which do have a Vomeronasal Organ.

  • Anonymous on November 27, 2016

    Also, didn’t theropods have a lot of stamina because of their avian respiratory systems? So, in game, couldn’t a Tyrannosaurus, dromeosaur, or Anzu basically run or walk after prey until it was too tired to go any farther, like wolves hunting elk?
    Also, apparently tyrannosaurs may have had better stamina than theropods of similar size
    http://raptorx863.deviantart.com/journal/SVP2016-Presentation-Highlights-643492506

  • DarkEnder64 on November 27, 2016

    Hello, best devellopers team ever 😀
    you are makin a great job, but I have a question: will this game be realesed on console ?
    And on xbox One or Ps4 (I don’t hope for xbox 360 and ps3…) ?

    Oh and sorry for all mistake,but I’m french… I hope you will understand my strange language 😛

  • DarkEnder64 on November 27, 2016

    WOWOWOWOWOW this is a incredibly cool game so realistic GG GG GG
    But will this game will be realesed on console? if yes, ps4 or Xbox one?

    Oh an soeey for my language… I’m french

    • slimeywoodchip on November 28, 2016

      sorry good sir, but they most likely won’t have it available for consoles until a very very long time into development. 🙁

    • NublarRex on November 29, 2016

      You speak better English than most English speakers on the internet

  • Turtledragon on November 27, 2016

    You guys amaze me every devlog! 😀

    • MatthewBIRDZ on December 1, 2016

      Same.
      They are AWESOME!!!!!!

  • Andrew Stuck on November 27, 2016

    One factoid I always remember being emphasized in 80’s & 90’s kids books was that hadrosaurs notable for having cheeks, yet I notice your Anatosaurus is less cheeky than the other ornithischians. Has that interpretation changed?

    • NublarRex on November 29, 2016

      Possibly I wasn’t alive during the 80’s, but it’s likely.

  • NathB$ on November 27, 2016

    Hey! Could anyone answer my question? I always wondered if spinosaurus had feathers. If someone have an answer for me, please leave a reply.

    • NublarRex on November 29, 2016

      There is currently no evidence of feathers on spinosaurus if they did it could’ve been a partial or it could’ve possessed no feathers since they would get wet and soggy in water unless they had and oil gland like ducks or other water fowls to waterproof their feathers.

    • MatthewBIRDZ on November 30, 2016

      There is no *DIRECT* evidence that Spinosaurus had feathers.
      Spinosaurus evolved from the branch Megalosauridae.
      Megalosauridae MIGHT have been a feathered group of Theropod (Links Below).
      Sciurumimus albersdoerferi is a species of Megalosauridae under the clade Coelurosauria found to have a feathery tail. Some scientists say that it may have had a squirrel-like tail giving it it’s name which litterally means “Squirrel-mimic”.
      This *MIGHT* mean that Spinosaurus had feathers.
      This is highly controversial and I can *NOT* back it up personally.
      I am only presenting the facts…
      If you do not think that I have helped then feel free to research on your own. 😀
      Hope This Helped!
      MatthewBIRDZ.

    • Estemmenosuchus on December 7, 2016

      Most likely going to be small quill-like ‘whiskers’ on the tip of the snout

  • Cheezay on November 26, 2016

    I’m a fan of Ornithischian “cheeks” ^^ they look nice with it.
    I compare the skull of an Anatosaurus with a horse skull here. It makes sense for me to have tissue covering the area where the molars are. If ornithischians chewed their food, then the food would have fallen out of a mouth without “cheeks” but on the other hand..they are not horses..
    What do I know ;D I’m no paleontologist.

    • slimeywoodchip on November 27, 2016

      obviously they used telekentic powers to keep the food in their mouths… We know the fabled franzl rex has magic powers, so it’s likely the anatosaurus possessed them too…

      *wink wink* (nice models saurian)

      • NublarRex on November 29, 2016

        Obviously all dinosaurs had some form of telekinetic powers the Franzl Rex’s where more powerful than others

    • Estemmenosuchus on December 7, 2016

      Hadrosaurs have a very different chewing mechanism than mammals.

  • Anonymous on November 25, 2016

    Acheroraptor is just everyone’s chew toy, isn’t it? Anyway, a few questions:
    1) Were quadrupedal dinosaurs like Triceratops and “Anatosaurus” able to buck with their hind legs like cattle? They had to dislodge desperate dromeosaurs somehow.
    2) If Anatosaurus has less cheek tissue now, but still performed side to side chewing motions, then how did the food stay in its mouth?
    3) can you name your dinosaur character, and your family/friends/pack/herd members?
    4) will young that left the nest be able to recognize their parents (if in a species that practices parental care)?
    5) will mammals try to prey on baby dinosaurs and eggs?
    6) if it is too hot or too cold, will the dinosaurs try to thermoregulate? (Panting, wallowing, bathing, digging holes,fluffing up feathers, etc.)
    7) Will animals be able to go out of their basic diet categories? For example a Dakotaraptor will supplement its diet with nuts (crocodiles eat fruit) or a triceratops with carrion (deer eat baby birds).
    Thanks.
    Great work.

    • Hunter1324 on November 26, 2016

      2)Anatosaurus didn’t chew by performing side by side grinding:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZkYcyYdZJU It’s a fully vertical fridning though the chewing battery comprosses while performing the motion.

      7) I don’t think they will make an animal omnivore unless their anatomy is consistent with omnivority.

    • John Keane on November 26, 2016

      or maybe they could run into trees, roll over, and whatnot to try to dislodge mounted dromeasaurs.

    • Jay Garrick on November 26, 2016

      A note on Anatosaurus chewing: it’s not really “side-to-side”. Part of the upper jaw rotates inward, and the plant material gets sheared with that motion. Check out Alex Tirabasso’s “Hadrosaur chewing mechanism visualization using 3D animation” on YouTube.

  • CyborgIguana on November 25, 2016

    Awesome update as always. That cheekless anatosaur looks intriguingly unconventional, and I’m glad to see the AI work is coming along nicely. Sometimes I think you guys deserve a break for all the awesome work you’ve been doing. Nevertheless, can’t wait to see what you’ll show next!

  • Mitchell Hall on November 25, 2016

    Daaaaayum, those Dakotaraptor murder animations though! Keep up the good work! I wish you a Happy American Thanksgiving, From Canada.

  • Mamenchi on November 25, 2016

    I was wondering if there can be a distinction between freshwater ( that animals can drink) and seawater ( not drinkable). Can the A.I recognise the difference?

    • NublarRex on November 29, 2016

      It’s not hard to code an ai to recognize the difference between the two depending on the software

  • TheUberAlbertosaurus on November 25, 2016

    Yee

    • Joshua West Lowrie on November 25, 2016

      YEE

      • MatthewBIRDZ on December 1, 2016

        *YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAA*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • John Keane on December 3, 2016

          GET HYPE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Spinosaurus Aegyptiacus on November 24, 2016

    Very impressive, keep up the great work, and Happy Thanksgiving/Turkey Day to you regardless.

  • H. Talib on November 24, 2016

    I’m surprised to see Denversaurus looks a lot like Stegosaurus (Or maybe that’s just my imagination :P).

    Great work to the team though :).

    • Garrus on November 25, 2016

      Stegosaurs, nodosaurs and ankylosaurs actually all belong to the same clade, Thyreophora.

  • Hunter1324 on November 24, 2016

    I’m surprised by the updated Anatosaurus facial tissue. It’s became sort of a meme to give them more expansive cheeks than to to other Ornithischians. Doesn’t seem to be the case.

    Also great workon the new AI and animations.

    • mrplcole on November 25, 2016

      Those “cheeks” always bugged me.

  • Francisco Godinho on November 24, 2016

    First.

    • Garrus on November 25, 2016

      Dammit Xico! XD

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